My friend Gail .. all I want u to know after this all ..
the west should understand something ..

If they think that beheading us and our children like this
torture and rape and behead our women like this

will make us leave this land and agree that they came
and occupy us they have to know that this crimes they
made make us more tough and angry

and my neck is cheap for mother Syria

we r here planted as the trees of my ground

so let them bring all they got .. and behead us all ..
they all will got from us is resistance

till the last guy standing

and as the great leader Guevara said :

I don’t care about when I fall
down since I know that there is comrades
will pick up my gun and keep shooting

and this massacres .. we will make sure
that the children who stay alive know
about it .. and the coming generation see
all this views .. so they will be more tough
fighting the west

the pics of those children … and my relatives
who suffered the same … give me extra power
to go and fight , and my life .. my neck is soooo
cheap for mother Syria

Name redacted


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been moved to the health ward of Belmarsh Prison, which comes a day before a formal hearing on his extradition to the US to stand trial for felony charges. Peace activist Gail Malone, explains what to expect from Assange’s case.

Sputnik: What to be expected from now on, about the case?

Gail Malone: At present a lot rests on Sweden and the possibility of reopening Assange’s rape allegations case. It is important to understand the US needs Julian in custody to enact their extradition plans. Sweden already has a reputation of rendering people to US black op sites. To get an idea of what is in store for Julian it may be helpful to read the Stratfor Emails releases. They outline plans to make Julian, his family and staff’s lives very difficult. I compiled a list of relevant emails years ago that I’d teased out of the release pertaining to just that.

Sputnik: What’s being done in the international area for Mr. Assange?

Gail Malone: Julian has the support of the United Nations Working Group on Arbitary Detention, who found that he was arbitrarily detained and his basic human rights denied him, that he should be allowed safe passage to Ecuador. UN Rapporteur on Torture Nils Melzer  also said they are deeply concerned regarding the disproportionate sentence Julian received for a bail violation. … Read more at Sputnik

On 4th November, 2018, Christine Assange, mother of Julian Assange, made a deeply moving video public  appeal to save the life of her son Julian.

Julian Assange, is Editor in Chief of Wikileaks.   Because of Wikileaks reporting of acts during US/Nato’s illegal wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, etc., and the highlighting of corruption by USA/CIA and Corporate powers, and continuing his fight in disclosing the links between the  private corporations and government agencies, Julian Assange has been threatened by high profile USA citizens, and a Grand Jury has been set up in America to try Julian Assange and Wikileaks, for their publications. For this he is being persecuted and deprived of his right to liberty, basic human rights etc.   Six years ago Julian Assange, aware of these extradition plans of America, sought asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy, in London, where he remains. Julian Assange is now six years within the Ecuadorian Embassy, and has now been detained WITHOUT CHARGES for eight years.

In her appeal for her sons life, Christine Assange says he is in immediate critical danger.  He is now all alone, sick, cut off from all contacts including computer phone mail and being persecuted in the heart of London.  Ms. Assange says‚ ‘for the past six years the UK Gov. has refused his request for basic health care, fresh air, sunshine for vitamin D, access to proper medical and dental care.  As a result his health has seriously deteriorated. Doctors have said the detention conditions are life threatening. In 2016 after in depth investigations the UN ruled that Julian’s legal and human rights had been violated on multiple occasions and that he has been illegally detained in 2010 and they ordered his immediate release, safe passage and compensation.  The UK Gov has refused to abide by this UN decision’.

When US Vice President Mike Pence visited Ecuador several months ago, behind scenes, Ecuador done a deal with US to have Julian Assange extradited for life to USA prison.  Ecuador are trying to make this acceptable by saying that the US has agreed not to kill him.  Now its a propaganda war with the US and UK to reduce his support enough to get away with  it politically.  The UK/US extradition act means he could be held in Guantanamo Prison and face torture, 45 years indefinite detention and/or death penalty.

Currently there is a court case in Ecuador fighting the threats to violate his asylum given by the previous President of Ecuador.  There are strict protocol set down by the Ecuadorian Embassy regarding visitors and to date Julian has not managed to have visitors for many months now.

The Ecuadorian Embassy has admitted formal restrictions on Julian Assange  and he is gagged from saying anything about politics, foreign policy human rights abuses, in fact anything critical about any country in the world.

This is political persecution of Julian Assange by high level people and it is punishment for exposing high level corruption when he was editor of Wikileaks.

Christine Assange has appealed to save her sons life, and her appeal deserves an immediate response by  us all and the Parties responsible. Mr. Assange is not asking for special treatment, he simply insists that the UK applies standard laws and procedures to him.  The United Nations Working Group on Arbitary Detention’s opinion confirmed Mr. Assanges right to liberty and right to protection. A text between Ecuador and the United Kingdom guaranteeing Assange would not be extradited to the USA, would provide an immediate resolution to the continued illegal and arbitrary detention of Mr. Assange.

Mr. Assange is an Australian Citizen and the Australian Government have a moral and legal responsibility to renew his passport and facilitate his  safe return to his own country, should he wish to do so.  Julian Assange deserves all our admiration and gratitude for his courage and bravery in truth-telling.  He is an inspiration to us all, together with his colleagues at Wikileaks, who are paying a high price for informing the public and upholding our right to know when Governments’ violate human rights and international laws.

Mairead Maguire

Nobel Peace Laurete   www.peacepeople.com

5th November, 2018


With Mairead Maguire, Tehran, 2014

Given the recent court case regarding the safety of RoundUp I thought it timely to republish.

We need to know if mining companies are destroying our aquifers; we need to know if they are poisoning our ground water with Coal seam gas chemicals.  We need to know that RoundUp destroys our soil and destroys human embryonic cells.  We need to know which foods are genetically modified.  We need to know of the precautionary principle and we really need to know about the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement.  What we need to know will be kept from us if this agreement is signed.

We are heading into a perfect storm of the destruction of our environment, affecting our food and water sustainability as well as our sovereignty in one fell swoop.  The TPPA is a wet dream for the likes of Monsanto and other destructive industries.  One of the greatest threats to Australia becoming a rampant US corporate state is transparency.  If the people of this country actually understood what the TPPA means, that is if they have heard about the TPPA, they would be outraged by the lack of consultation with the people of this land and the degree to which they will be disenfranchised by it.


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Why have so few Australians heard anything about the TPPA?  Because it’s a secret…so shhh it’s so secret that even in the US, Members of Congress, state governors, the press, and the public are not allowed to see drafts of the agreement.  There are over 600 business representatives serving as official U.S. trade advisers who have full access to draft texts playing an inside role in the process.  In Australia, only a few people involved in the negotiations know the details and they are not allowed to reveal them to Parliament, let alone the Australian public..  How does one negotiate anything without knowing the ‘details’, we all know that’s where the devil is.  Why is there such need for secrecy with this trade agreement?  Our sovereign rights will be imperilled by the TPPA and the people may get a bit uppity about that.

The TPPA is the stuff Monsanto dreams are made of.  If everyone knew the full implications, via studies of independent, peer reviewed science; if these studies were available for scrutiny not only Monsanto’s research, Australians would not allow such madness.  If you knew a Monsanto GM food caused infertility in both men and women, immune system failure, holes in the gastro intestinal tract, multiple system failure, would you want to eat it, would you feed it to your kids?  Monsanto told us PCBs, Agent Orange and DDT were all safe, not a good track record on transparency.  Monsanto and other companies of their ilk will lie for profit; they have a history of it, what psychologists would call a pattern of behaviour.  It is up to our government to demand transparency from multi national corporations and view their findings by comparing and contrasting them to other genuine scientific studies.  Government will only do that if a well informed citizenry in turn hold government to account, once the TPPA is signed that will be impossible.

The fundamental assumption is corporations can sue sovereign states, but sovereign states can’t sue corporations operating in their territory.  Tribunals set up to deal with disputes are a one-way street.  Tribunals are not bound by precedent and have no appeal mechanism. When an investor-state tribunal rules in favour of a foreign investor, the government must pay the corporation an amount decided by the tribunal and funded by taxpayers.  The obvious consequence of the threat of such challenges is States will change or weaken regulations to avoid fines, or avoid enacting legislation that might attract a fine.  So no plain labelling on cigarettes, but definitely plain labelling on GMO foods.  Monsanto doesn’t want you to know you’re eating their product, they know we don’t want their poison.

Monsanto’s best known product in Australia is RoundUp.  Researchers found one of RoundUp’s inert ingredients can kill human cells, particularly embryonic, placental and umbilical cord cells.  The new findings intensify debate around “inerts” – the solvents, preservatives, surfactants and other substances manufacturers add to pesticides.  Glyphosate, RoundUp’s active ingredient, is the most widely used herbicide in the United States.  Until now, most health studies have focused on the safety of glyphosate, rather than the mixture of ingredients found in RoundUp.  A few years back Monsanto agreed with the New York Attorney General’s office to discontinue the use of the terms “biodegradable” and “environmentally friendly” in adverts promoting glyphosate-based products, including RoundUp.  Biactive the ‘improved’ RoundUp is based on glyphosate, Monsanto boast that it is frog friendly and can be sprayed on and near waterways.  Monsanto does not disclose what the ‘improved’ surfactant is.  One specific inert ingredient, polyethoxylated tallowamine was more deadly to human embryonic, placental and umbilical cord cells than the herbicide itself.  “Moreover, the proprietary mixtures available on the market could cause cell damage and even death [at the] residual levels” found on RoundUp-treated crops, lawns and gardens.  A research team suspects that RoundUp might cause pregnancy problems by interfering with hormone production, possibly leading to abnormal foetal development, low birth weights or miscarriages.  The term “inert ingredient” is misleading, U.S. Federal law classifies all pesticide ingredients that don’t harm pests as inert.  However, some inert ingredients have been found to potentially affect human health.  Many amplify the effects of active ingredients by helping them penetrate clothing, protective equipment and cell membranes, or by increasing their toxicity.  RoundUp is in the hands of untrained people across the country-side spraying for all they are worth to save us from weeds.  There are many safe methods for dealing with weeds that are cheap and some not labour intensive.  It has been found that many weeds have become resistant to RoundUp, Fleabane is one that is quite common in Australia.  So, we are in fact making super weeds, like we have made super cockroaches and super bacteria by ill informed and out of control use of insecticides and antibiotics?  Spraying RoundUp kills fungi that colonise plant roots and aid in the uptake of soil mineral nutrients.  If people had these facts to hand why would they spray their gardens and veggie patches with a chemical that will cause a failure to thrive?  If you have a weed infestation it is best to know how to deal with it, or if it needs to be dealt with at all.  Annual weeds can be kept cut low so they don’t go to seed, they then will dye off and replenish the soil without disturbing it making it vulnerable to further infestations and erosion.  Steam is also being used in several local councils for weed eradication.  You can solarise weeds by watering the area and covering it with thin clear plastic.  Leave it for as long as possible, say over winter to early spring would be ideal and wha-la dead weeds, cheap, painless, safe, just plant up, mulch, follow up spot weed, job done without a drop of poison ready for summer veggies!  Plants grown in solarised soil soon after treatment have often benefited from improved seed germination, better stand establishment and improved plant height.  Increased growth responses are thought to be due primarily to the increase in soil nutrient availability, as a result of the breakdown of soil organic material.  For large trees, camphor laurels and the like you can deal with them with a strangler fig, no removal of habitat or soil disturbance just patience to let nature take its course.  Understanding your weeds helps, do they need to be removed at all?  If the weeds and the crops or flowers you are growing aren’t competing for the same soil nutrients the weeds can be left as green mulch to help stop erosion and maintain moisture in the soil.  The weeds in your lawn can feed you, many are high in nutrients, very tasty and if you have not been using chemicals a dandelion is a delicious food as are many other weeds.  It makes no sense to use RoundUp except to increase Monsanto’s bottom line.  We are very cavalier about its use and it’s one environmental problem that we, as individuals, can control to a large extent.  All we have to do is not purchase the stuff but informed decisions can only be made in a transparent environment.

The amount of water in the Great Artesian Basin could form a water cube of 40 kilometres, holding more than 100,000 times the water of Sydney Harbour.  The water is between thick layers of friable sandstone into an interlinked network of aquifers that stretch from Dubbo in NSW, through most of Queensland and parts of the Northern Territory and South Australia.  It ”flows” through pores in the rock at the glacial pace.

The coal seam gas industry as a whole could extract 300 billion litres per year over the next 25 years, most of it from the Great Artesian Basin, according to federal government estimates.  As farmers are grappling to do more with less and adapt to a more stringent licensing system, the water being sucked up from the basin as a by-product of coal seam gas extraction will see the total volume brought to the surface rise by 60 per cent.

The basin has existed for millions of years, but one of the biggest tests to its existence will come in the next decade.  Beneath the layers of water lie some of the world’s most extensive coal seams.  Just as the sandstone aquifers contain water, so the coal seams contain methane.

To get the methane to the surface tens of thousands of shafts will be threaded through the aquifer layers.  In most cases, water, sand and chemicals will then be forced down the shafts at high pressure, to fracture the coal seams and get to the gas.  Large amounts of underground water will also have to be pumped out. After a few years, the wells will have to be sealed so that no gas or water leaks out, ever.  This will have to be done without turning the fragile Great Artesian Basin into a continent-sized pin–cushion.

As mentioned, sand is used in the fracking process so this is another resource that will have to be extracted from somewhere reasonably close the fracking areas.  Just north of Sydney I know of a sand mine, very handy as it’s close to the freeway.  The sand is being produced by crushing the friable sandstone of a hanging swamp with endangered flora and fauna, rock engravings and a spectacular women’s site. A river has been removed, that’s illegal, the company didn’t have a water licence, that’s illegal.  Friable sandstone is like a sponge that holds water within aquifers, extractive industries put a hole in the bucket of our aquifers.  The impacts of this culture of extraction cannot be fully realised and the TPPA will tie our hands in determining how we want to maintain our environment.

I did a quick search of some of the known chemicals used and the very first chemical I searched Naphthalene, yep, sure enough produced by Monsanto….the second one; Triethanolamine Zirconate produced by Monsanto … but there are still no comprehensive list of all the chemicals used, it’s suspected there are about 36 chemicals altogether but they are secret like KFCs 11 herbs and spices, Coca Cola’s recipe and Monsanto’s secret surfactant in Biactive RoundUp.

The most important Australian court to date, due to its exceptionally detailed consideration of the precautionary principle, is Telstra Corporation Limited v Hornsby Shire Council.  The case was heard in the New South Wales Land and Environment Court in 2006.

The Principle was summarised by reference to the NSW Protection of the Environment Administration Act 1991, which itself provides a good definition of the principle:

“If there are threats of serious or irreversible environmental damage, lack of full scientific certainty should not be used as a reasoning for postponing measures to prevent environmental degradation.  In the application of the principle… decisions should be guided by: (i) careful evaluation to avoid, wherever practicable, serious or irreversible damage to the environment; and (ii) an assessment of risk-weighted consequence of various options”.

The most significant points of Justice Preston’s decision are the following findings: The principle and accompanying need to take precautionary measures is “triggered” when two prior conditions exist: a threat of serious or irreversible damage, and scientific uncertainty as to the extent of possible damage.

Once both are satisfied, “a proportionate precautionary measure may be taken to avert the anticipated threat of environmental damage, but it should be proportionate.”

The threat of serious or irreversible damage should invoke consideration of five factors: the scale of threat (local, regional etc.); the perceived value of the threatened environment; whether the possible impacts are manageable; the level of public concern, and whether there is a rational or scientific basis for the concern.

The consideration of the level of scientific uncertainty should involve factors which may include: what would constitute sufficient evidence; the level and kind of uncertainty; and the potential to reduce uncertainty.  The principle shifts the burden of proof.  This principle will be null and void if the TPPA is signed.

Frederick Douglas said “Those who profess to favour freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning.  They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters.

This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle.  Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”

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Gail Malone has a Cert. IV in Conservation and Land Management. Gail specialises in weed management.


Hands Off Syria, Sydney, stands in solidarity with Julian Assange, Editor-in-Chief of WikiLeaks, and supports the call of the UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention (UNWGAD) for the “Swedish and British authorities to end Julian Assange’s deprivation of liberty, respect his physical integrity and freedom of movement, and afford him the right to compensation.”

Hands Off Syria, Sydney, endorses the call by Julian’s UK Solidarity Campaign for the UK Government to:
1. Ensure Julian Assange is guaranteed full and timely access to all necessary medical and dental care;
2. Request and defend his right to receive information and impart information freely without interference by any public authority;
3. Defend Mr Assange at home and abroad and object to threats levelled against Mr Assange by high profile US citizens and others;
4. Strongly oppose and refuse, any application to have Mr Assange extradited to the United States where it is unlikely he would receive a fair trial;
5. Facilitate the exercise of his right to freedom of movement in an expedient manner;
6. Compensate him for his arbitrary detention – the Swedish Government should also compensate him for his arbitrary detention.

WikiLeaks has been the source of information which has exposed US and allies war crimes in Iraq; regime-change operations in Syria and Libya and mass surveillance around the globe.

In The Wikileaks Files Julian reveals that the planning for the destabilisation of Syria goes back to 2006, referencing a diplomatic cable by William Roebuck, US Ambassador to Syria then, where the discussion includes the creation of a situation where “the Syrian Government would be enticed to ‘overreact’ to false or manufactured threats posed by ‘radical jihadists'” (Brandon Turbeville, September 2015).

The US and CIA being left red-face have decided to set up a Grand Jury to prosecute Julian and WikiLeaks under the Espionage Act 1917 and condemn him to life imprisonment, torture, and possible death penalty.

Over six years ago, Julian sought refuge and asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy following harassment and threats to his freedom by the British government and abandonment by his birth country, Australia.

Julian’s health has been deteriorating as he has been confined to the limited compounds of the Ecuadorian Embassy, without access to natural light, daily exercise and medical attention.

Following pressures from Washington and Downing St, since March this year Julian has been totally isolated, deprived of visitors, telephone calls, internet access and other means of electronic communication leading to further deterioration of his physical and mental health.

Canberra instead of supporting one of his citizens and demanding his safety and repatriation has decided to kowtow to Washington. This attitude must change if the Turnbull government does not want Julian’s death redden their hands.

As an Australian citizen, Hands Off Syria, Sydney, also supports the demands for the Australian Government to work for Julian’s freedom and any wishes for repatriation with guaranteed protection from any US request for his extradition.

July 2018

There’s a need to keep reminding Australians of the active role Australia has played in the plight of Julian Assange and that his family were not to be excused from their cruel schemes. I compiled this list just after the release of the Stratfor Emails.

Comments from the experts. As I said before, I still don’t think the Supreme Court has set a clear line on this issue. Note Holder’s statement too–suggests Fred’s info is true that they may try to prosecute Assange under other laws. Espionage Act Presents Challenges for WikiLeaks Indictment. Sweeping Anti-Spying Law ‘Makes Felons of Us All,’ Legal Expert Says http://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1084229_espionage-act-presents-challenges-for-wikileaks-indictment-.html 

One other point is this. Ferreting out his confederates is also key. Find out what other disgruntled rogues inside the tent or outside. Pile on. Move him from country to country to face various charges for the next 25 years. But, seize everything he and his family own, to include every person linked to Wiki. http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056763_re-discussion-assange-arrested-.html

CEO George Friedmen responds: “It is possible to revoke citizenship on the grounds of being a dickhead except in Australia, where all of Queensland and a good part of South Australia, along with all of Sydney Uni would lose their passports.” Email-ID1050427 http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-on-the-Australian-Assange.html

In another email, a former Australian Senator from Queensland, William (Bill) O’Chee cheers Assange’s London arrest. O’Chee writes to Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate Security, and a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State’s (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS): “Hooray!… Sadly [Assange] didn’t have a car accident on the way there.” Email-ID 370352  http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/370352_re-julian-assange-arrest-.html

The AFP statement forced Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, to backtrack on her earlier public comments that the Wikileaks publication of the embassy cables was “illegal.”

Gillard continued refusal to formerly recant her “illegal” statement, as well her later, higly prejudicial remarks that that the WikiLeaks disclosures were “an illegal act that breached the laws of the United States of America” have gravely endangered Assange, especially in light of the recent WikiLeaks disclosure, obtained in another confidential Stratfor email, that the US has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks for more than 12 months. Stratfor Email-ID 375123 http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-on-the-Australian-Assange.html

Following Julian Assange’s release from a London jail, where he had been remanded as a result of a Swedish prosecutor’s arrest warrant, Burton told SkyNews: “extradition [to the US is] more and more likely”. Stratfor Email-ID 373862 http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-on-the-Australian-Assange.html

In a late 2010 email exchange with George Friedman, Stratfor CEO and founder, Farnham writes, “BTW, close family friend in Sweden who knows the girl that is pressing charges tells me that there is absolutely nothing behind it other than prosecutors that are looking to make a name for themselves. My friend speaks rather disparagingly about the girl who is claiming molestation. I also think the whole rape thing is incorrect for if I remember correctly rape was never the charge.” Email-ID1657727 http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-Sydney-Based-Watch.html

Assange has not been indicted in the Swedish case, but recently released emails have revealed that the United States Government has had a secret inditement against the WikiLeaks founder for more than twelve months: “Not for Pub — We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect.” Email-ID 375123 http://wikileaks.org/Stratfor-Sydney-Based-Watch.html

According to Burton: “Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever.” Emal-ID 1056988  http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056988_re-wikileaks-is-attacking-us-.html

On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Marko Papic wrote:

Potential diary? Comparing WikiLeak attack to Pearl Harbor… Will STRATFOR rebound and eventually launch a nuclear attack against WikiLeaks? Stay tuned… for $199 a year. Email-ID 1056988 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056988_re-wikileaks-is-attacking-us-.html

cooperate with the United States if it opens a prosecution. Mr. Assange said a senior Australian official told him, a**You play outside the rules, and you will be dealt with outside the rules. Email-iD 1630947 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1630947_re-profile-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-.html

The US began moves to charge Assange under the Espionage Act, and the Australian government is dutifully looking for something to charge him with too. http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1675721_re-wikileaks-and-second-wave-of-financial-crisis-.html

At this point, with the legitimacy of state and economy at historic lows, the three major blows of WikiLeaks have decisively shifted the power relationship between information on the one hand, and state/economy on the other. From the other end, the nations are rebelling. “Peoples of Europe, rise up” the Greek Communist Party’s slogan hung from the Acropolis chimes with WikiLeaks material and categorical challenge to the very fabric of state power, as expressed in the notion of “inviolable diplomaticcommunication”. http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1675721_re-wikileaks-and-second-wave-of-financial-crisis-.html

just told SkyNews concerns for US extradition more and more likely Email-ID 373862 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/373862_assange-.html

Attorney General Eric Holder has said the Justice Department was considering filing espionage charges in the case. Email-ID 375123 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/375123_fw-ct-assange-manning-link-not-key-to-wikileaks-case-.html

Chris Farnham wrote:

Is it possible to revoke some one’s citizenship on the grounds of them being a total dickhead? I don’t care about the other leaks but the ones he has made that potentially damage Australian interests upset me. If I thought I could switch this dickhead off without getting done 

I don’t think I’d have too much of a problem. BTW, close family friend in Sweden who knows the girl that is pressing charges tells me that there is absolutely nothing behind it other than prosecutors that are looking to make a name for themselves. My friend speaks rather disparagingly about the girl who is claiming molestation. I also think the whole rape thing is incorrect for if I remember correctly rape was never the charge. Email-ID 1050427 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1050427_re-assange-is-off-the-hook-.html

Let’s say the following scenario happens. Assange is arrested and extradicted to Sweden to face rape charges. Wikileaks releases the password to the insurance files. Would he not then be directly endangering U.S. and other country intelligence professionals? Would it not then be possible to prosecute him for espionage? Email-ID 1050427 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1050427_re-assange-is-off-the-hook-.html

Basic fact is that any move to arrest the guy (assuming they get an indictment for him) would require that a friendly government do it and then extradite him. Nick Miller told me the Australians have already offered to do this, as Assange is an Australian citizen, and Australia is the Canada of the southern hemisphere when it comes to its relations with the US.

Also, Karen had a very good point about the sex charges. Weren’t those dropped months ago after the initial allegations? What do ya know, after the US explici[t]ly warned him time and again to stop publishing the cables, it pops back up all of a sudden… Email-ID 1031974 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1031974_re-info-wiki-founder-.html 

Not sure that’s happening re Oz; federal police have opened up an investigation to see whether or not any Australian criminal laws were broken. – where did Nick get the insight about an agreed extradition – there is nothing about this on OS and of course it would mean Assange would have to come home first. Something he is very unlikely to do. Gov Gen hasn’t ruled out canceling his passport incidentally. His mother has recently been interviewed by the ABC and she is scared that he will be “hunted down and jailed”… will make it difficult to pursue the scenario painted below. Australians are likely to back him. You wouldn’t believe how much press/public sentiment david hicks created in Guantanamo Bay. It really forced the Howard govt to change tactics…esp when polling results overall were so poor.** http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1031974_re-info-wiki-founder-.html 

Likely: someone is spoofing wikileaks and acting like the internet equivalent of an abusively drunk fratboy to get the wikileaks server ip blocked from as many networks as possible None of those scenarios is uninteresting, but I think my theor fits best. Thoughts? Email-ID 1056988 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056988_re-wikileaks-is-attacking-us-.html

In his native Australia, ministers have signaled their willingness to cooperate with the United States if it opens a prosecution. Mr. Assange said a senior Australian official told him, a**You play outside the rules, and you will be dealt with outside the rules.a** http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1630947_re-profile-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-.html

Bayless Parsley wrote:

How would it work if the US wanted to catch such a high profile target like this? Despite what one Republican senator may have said the other day (can’t remember who, or if it was even a senator), he’s not a “terrorist,” and so rendition….. wouldn’t really be an option. But legally, you’d have to have the host government’s cooperation. Is there any way aside from that scenario that could lead to his arrest on charges of breaking US laws?

On 12/1/10 12:12 PM, Fred Burton wrote:

From a very good contact @ the FBI — How come you guys haven’t picked this left-wing lunatic WikiLeaks founder up on some sort of trumped up charge? 1st Amendment overprotects journalists. Email-ID 1021974 http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1031974_re-info-wiki-founder-.html

[Y]ou have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control… This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase” – CEO George Friedman to Stratfor analyst Reva Bhalla on 6 December 2011, on how to exploit an Israeli intelligence informant providing information on the medical condition of the President of Venezuala, Hugo Chavez. http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html

Marko Papic wrote:

Nate makes a good point. The arrest is not necessarily the end of Julian Assange. He could become a martyr in jail, particularly a Swedish jail, which I imagine has better amenities than my house.

On 12/7/10 7:38 AM, Fred Burton wrote:

Will take weeks for extradition, unless he waves the process. DOJ (Holder) won’t seek prosecution on their own, but look for the GOP (Congress) to press for criminal prosecution. Be easy to indict. I would pursue Conspiracy and Political Terrorism charges and declassify the death of a source someone which I could link to Wiki. http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056763_re-discussion-assange-arrested-.html

(though personally, getting a rapist off the street is getting a rapist off the street. Also, his mom owns a puppet theater…) http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056763_re-discussion-assange-arrested-.html 

In an interview with an Australian newspaper, Mr Assange’s mother defended her son and lambasted hawks in the US who have called for his death.

Ms Assange, who runs a puppet theatre in Noosa, a Queensland beach resort, defended her son’s decision to publish thousands of classified US documents on the website. “He sees what he’s doing as doing a good thing in the world – fighting baddies, if you like,” she told Queensland’s Courier-Mail.

Ms Assange – who does not even own a computer – described her son as a hero of the internet. But she added that she feared he had “gotten too smart for himself”, saying: “I’m concerned it’s gotten too big and the forces that he’s challenging are too big.” She did not want him “hunted down and jailed”. http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1056763_re-discussion-assange-arrested-.html

We probably asked the ASIS to monitor Wiki coms and email, after the soldier from Potomac was nabbed. So, its reasonable to assume we probably already know who has done it. The delay could be figuring out how to declassify and use the Aussie intel on Wiki. Wiki holding on to other docs is to protect their sources. The owner is a peacenik. He needs his head dunked in a full toilet bowl at Gitmo. http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/364817_fw-ct-fw-guidance-on-the-leaks-.html

Let’s say the following scenario happens. Assange is arrested and extradicted to Sweden to face rape charges. Wikileaks releases the password to the insurance files. Would he not then be directly endangering U.S. and other country intelligence professionals? Would it not then be possible to prosecute him for espionage? http://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1657261_re-assange-is-off-the-hook-.html 

I came up with some more thoughts/points while discussing this with Sean: 

The general guess is that Insurance contains the remaining 15k Afghan docs, but it could either be something more damaging or total bluff. o In any case the US govt wouldn’t want to risk public dissemination. Which means they can’t really arrest him, kill him or send him to a relaxation spa in Cuba or Poland.

o  Therefore Assange’s life/liberty is somewhat important for US national security.

o  Pushing this reasoning forward, killing Assange would be detrimental for the US.

o  I don’t know who would benefit from further leaks and political shitstorms in the US, but that person/government may have it in them to cap Assange.

o  The US needs to make sure nobody gets to him.

o All in all, not a particularly brilliant self-preservation move from Assange. http://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1176673_re-s3-mesa-ct-mil-wikileaks-posts-huge-encrypted-file-to-web.html

On 12/5/10 10:23 PM, Marko Papic wrote:

What a douche. And I just want to be clear here… I have no problem with the leaks. I think they’re great. And I think it may be good on some level to have stuff like this come out once in a while. What I can’t stand is A) his ego trip and B) his clear anti-Americanism. Take the time to read the intro to Cablegate when you get the chance. This guy hates America more than OBL. What I love, however, is how nobody in the U.S. is mad about the cables. Hell, I have a better opinion of State Department diplomats now than I did before the cables. They actually said a few smart things here and there. I actually gave them a tip of my hat.

I want to see him try to take on the Russians. He’d be going bald in an Iceland hospital within days. http://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/1657261_re-assange-is-off-the-hook-.html

A hero? Avaaz is right. It’s not illegal but it does make you accessory to being an asshole. Real people are being tortured by governments that Avaaz and Assange probably like more than the US, all the while the two of them denounce US ‘torture’ at Guantanamo. They are like the crazy IPS/CISPES/SDS people who were so full of hate that they could not see that they are doing so much more bad than they at doing good. I’m in favor of using whatever trumped up charge is available to get this guy and his servers off the streets. And I’d feed that shit head soldier to the first pack of wild dogs I could find. Or perhaps just do to him whatever the Iranians are doing to our sources there. http://www.wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/389793_.html